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By: Susan

Susan — Wed, 16 Sep 2020 01:58:14 +0000

The “ass” in embarrassment? Anyone that use online to trash something you don’t have any clue or proof about put the “I” in ignorance and the “P” in pathetic. I’m just sayin……………………….. and that doesn’t have anything to do with being native, white, black, or another wanna be

By: Franklin Goldsmith

Franklin Goldsmith — Tue, 15 Sep 2020 22:38:52 +0000

Pamunkey is the Algonquin word for trifling!

By: Fight the power

Fight the power — Tue, 15 Sep 2020 02:53:09 +0000

Pamuney is just a bunch of white people with 1 native ancestor. That is why they did not almost get federal recognition.
For Example look at Thomas Cook is listed as an ancestor, but no record can be founded to prove he was Pamunkey. This is the ancestor of Chief George Major Cook famously testified, “I will tie a stone around my neck and jump into the James River rather than be classed as a Negro.” Now why would anyone want to deal with a group that has 65 people claiming to come from a person who is not Pamunkey and would rather die than be reclasified and make laws to keep people out who marry black. Any company or city that deals with Pamunkey has zero respect for true natives and African Americans

By: just here to stop the bs

just here to stop the bs — Tue, 15 Sep 2020 02:31:39 +0000

This comment section is a complete disgrace to the Pamunkey tribe. All tribal members should be ashamed that all this dirt is getting aired out. It is bad enough the tribe we are facing backlash from the Black law, and it still being implemented. When it comes to the casino the biggest problem should be how much money will it cost to improve the shoreline (has to be done before the casino can be built), the decline in the economy in the Hampton Roads area, who really owns the casino, and the competing casino in the city of Portsmouth. We need to stop all of this online drama and bring forward real problems with this project.

By: Franklin Goldsmith

Franklin Goldsmith — Tue, 15 Sep 2020 00:43:25 +0000

WTH, Pamunkey is a disgrace to Indian Country. They put the “ass” in embarassment!

By: Franklin Goldsmith

Franklin Goldsmith — Tue, 15 Sep 2020 00:20:40 +0000

Aren’t there any refuse collectors around to take out all these Pamunkey white trash commenters?
This tribe is everything that is wrong with the broken federal recognition process.

By: Just saying

Just saying — Mon, 14 Sep 2020 20:58:55 +0000

Franklin- you don’t know what happened. Chief and Council did not oust Kevin the tribal body did. Kevin wrote to lawyers he would blow up a deal signed by all of council unless he was paid $100,000 and then did that. He took money from the tribes bank account without authority. He then wrote to the tribe he ended the deal because he was against gaming but told other people once he was back in power gaming was back on. The tribe ousted him for lying to the tribe. Later he tried to extort the developer and wrote a letter asking for money because he was disgruntled and would f things up. He did good things when chief but at some point a line had to be drawn.

By: Just saying

Just saying — Mon, 14 Sep 2020 20:51:09 +0000

regarding the mental issues raised at two meetings – chief and council did explain they had no choice but to hold a meeting regarding JC because the law required they hold a meeting if petitioned by only 7 people and did not have power to not call the meeting just because they didn’t agree. If tribal members don’t like that only 7 people can force chief and council to call a meeting, change the law. For the second time, one member raised the issue, was told he wouldn’t get an answer and kept raising it.Chief and council could not throw him out by law but could ask for a motion by those present. A motion was made and it sounded to me like everyone say yes and didn’t hear anyone say no. So it seems the tribe sided with chief and not the person. Blame the tribe not chief and council.

By: WTH!

WTH! — Sun, 13 Sep 2020 18:29:42 +0000

This comment section is an embarrassment to all tribal members….

By: It’s so bad I’m almost ashamed to be Pamunkey

It’s so bad I’m almost ashamed to be Pamunkey — Sun, 13 Sep 2020 02:00:05 +0000

The Real Truth
Kevin did get a little greedy. Overall he was a good chief. He tried to improve the community. He remodeled the school house and rebuilt the old pottery school at the town gate. He may have made a dollar or two on it but he got the members of the reservation that weren’t working to help and payed them a dollar or two. He was a pretty fair Chief. He didn’t show any favoritism to friends or family. It didn’t matter if you agreed with him yesterday or not. I’m pretty sure that Bobby and Brad saw an opportunity to get some money under the table so they set Kevin up. I know for a fact that council has covered up stuff for Chief Gray. I like him as a person but as Chief he sucks. There is no way with what he has going on that he should be Chief. I heard about the council getting paid over the resovoir deal, I believe that was back in the 90’s. Some how it slipped out to tribal members, that is how they learned about it. I also heard that council member Warren Cook wrote grants and made a huge percentage off of them for himself and when the tribe found out they brought it to council and they made stop writing grants. Chief and council allowed a request for a members mental status to be disclosed during a tribal meeting but when members ask about the Chiefs’ they get thrown out of meetings. The Chief finally gave a response in a tribal meeting about his mental status and he stated he was under the care of a doctor. Not much detail there. Y’all can say what you want about Kevin but his heart as being Chief was in the right place. Like I said yeah he got a little greedy at the end but he did way more for the community as a while than any other Chief I can remember. I think it is sad how the tribe is so divided, brothers against brothers and everybody needs to come together in the end! NATIVE LIVES MATTER!!!!

By: Franklin Goldsmith

Franklin Goldsmith — Sat, 12 Sep 2020 23:01:03 +0000

Let’s just say Pamunkey is fuuuuuuuuuuuuudged up! From their racist and discriminatory practices to their faux identity. Even their federal recognition is suspect. They are a disgrace to tribal nations.

By: Susan

Susan — Sat, 12 Sep 2020 22:04:41 +0000

It should be put out there for all eyes. The tribal members who are spreading their lies are both sanctioned by the tribe for previous actions. Neither has voice or vote. The tribe has warned them before and they just don’t get it. The tribal records must all be lies in their warped minds.

By: Franklin Goldsmith

Franklin Goldsmith — Sat, 12 Sep 2020 03:27:43 +0000

Wingapowak, You are both culpable in this unpleasant public display. The money from former times of which you both speak is of insignificance in the big picture. The Reservoir Project paying out $250,000, or any other lower amount, to the willing Mattaponi, Upper Mattaponi and Pamunkey is such a ridiculous amount of compensation for the devastation of the tribal cultural and physical landscape it made the tribes look like novices and ignoramuses. Try and buy a lake or river house anywhere and compare.
Meanwhile, the tribal leadership has competed for control of the train wreck and relied on foreign investors (who have no considerable knowledge of anything from the region), which is most telling. Yes, Chief Kevin Brown made commitments to financial and legal supporters, but in considering all things, he was the Chief that led the Pamunkey to Federal Acknowledgement through the gauntlet of the Bureau’s OFA. It was not a simple feat by any means, if compared to the rest of the Eastern state recognized tribes. Why did the Council oust Brown? Recommending a salary of 80K or 100K with subordinates at 30, 40, 60 and 70K is completely reasonable; to think otherwise only demonstrates the abject poverty and financial disparateness of the tribal members, and clearly without consideration of strategic planning. Under Bobby’s leadership, the Pamunkey look very ripe for the picking.
Keeping it real, the Council should consider Chief Kevin Brown and recognize leadership when presented. This is not a family affair, it is the Pamunkey Nation. Rely on the fact that he navigated the tribe to federal recognition.